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* Istanbul Mehmet * Original Handmade Cast Bronze Cymbals from Turkey *
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The "Other Istanbuls"
Most everybody interested in Handmade Turkish Cymbals has heard the story of Mehmet Tamdeger and Agop Tomurcuk learning the craft at Mikael Zilcan's factory from early on, and establishing Istanbul Cymbals in the early eighties to produce the now coveted green- logo'd "pre-split" Istanbuls. After Agop's death in 1996, the company divided into Istanbul Mehmet, still run by Tamdeger, and Istanbul Agop, headed by his sons.
There is much discussion on cymbal forums like cymbalholics.com and others about the presumed tonal differences between the two brands (see Links). The Mehmets have been described as "smoother", the Agops as "trashier" and vice versa. Personally, I find both brands produce outstanding cymbals, and the "pre-split" myth is mostly that.
Clearly, Istanbul Agop has done a much better job at promoting and distributing their cymbals up to now, signing up less obscure, more internationally known endorsers etc. (maybe a "generational" advantage), but all that PR has come at a price that gets passed on to the consumer (Mehmets have generally retailed for at least 10+% less, and -at least in"my little world"- I'll try and keep it that way).
As a frugal kind of consumer, I'd rather play lesser known and endorsed cymbals at a better price. Call me cheap...or smart.
There is much discussion on cymbal forums like cymbalholics.com and others about the presumed tonal differences between the two brands (see Links). The Mehmets have been described as "smoother", the Agops as "trashier" and vice versa. Personally, I find both brands produce outstanding cymbals, and the "pre-split" myth is mostly that.
Clearly, Istanbul Agop has done a much better job at promoting and distributing their cymbals up to now, signing up less obscure, more internationally known endorsers etc. (maybe a "generational" advantage), but all that PR has come at a price that gets passed on to the consumer (Mehmets have generally retailed for at least 10+% less, and -at least in"my little world"- I'll try and keep it that way).
As a frugal kind of consumer, I'd rather play lesser known and endorsed cymbals at a better price. Call me cheap...or smart.
Buying Cymbals Online: My $.002
To some people, it seems like the worst possible idea. Others have purchased their entire set-up on the web. My own experience as an online consumer of cymbals and drums has almost always been positive. As a matter of fact, the only cymbal I ever disliked enough to return it, was bought at a brick-and-mortar store ( a Meinl crash, btw., and I am German).
Granted, sound files have their limitations, and the actual cymbal you are buying may not sound "exactly" like you expected, but sometimes that's even true for the "soundfile" in your head, uploaded in a specific actual room (store). Great sounding cymbals should sound "great" in almost any setting, imo.
In case you do want to return a cymbal, you only pay for the actual shipping costs. Considering the often substantial online savings, I believe, it is usually a gamble worth taking.
The new MC Jazz series (2010):
22", 20" rides, 18" crash, 15", 14" hats
Disclaimer and Apology
By default this website is clearly tilted (inventory and opinions) towards Istanbul Mehmet cymbals more suitable for rock, fusion, funk etc., than those for more traditional jazz. It's just what I know better at this point. Fortunately, jazz drummers often are already thoroughly familiar with handmade Turkish cymbals, whereas the others often are not. My apologies to all you true jazz players out there. I hope, you'll order here anyway (I promise to get you the best price I can). Just don't expect any "pearls of wisdom" about the ultimate jazz ride from me. Thanks.
Mehmet and Elvin What's His Name... Mehmet and Tony
